Message 225
From: belairchevy
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 11:10 pm
Subject: Re: WTB All Aboard Stuff
You might check with the guy listed in message 217. He had several panels for
sale including switches. Also try Doug Peck at Port Lines Hobby
Supplies..........Brad
Message 224
From: dsimon55
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2001 8:02 pm
Subject: WTB All Aboard Stuff
My son just got into American flyer. I am trying
to revive my old All Aboard set. if anyone has any
extra panels, or parts please let me know. I am looking
for the switch panels as well as whistle. Have been
looking at eBay with no luck. please let me know what you
have for sale and how much. thanks Dave
Message 223
From: myflyertrains
Date: Thu Dec 13, 2001 5:52 pm
Subject: All Aboard Book $27.00! Please read...
Ok folks, I hope that the people that have
bid this All Aboard Manual up to $27.00, are not club
members. Hobby Surplus sells these brand new for $7.99, so
Caveat Emptor! The auction is below for your inspection,
I am NOT recommending you get involved in this
bidding frenzy!
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1674646496
Enjoy.............Chuck
Message 222
From: myflyertrains
Date: Tue Dec 11, 2001 7:34 pm
Subject: Champion 800 8 panel set on eBay
Here is an 8 panel set which includes two switch panels.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1675693004
Enjoy.....Chuck
Message 221
From: myflyertrains
Date: Mon Dec 3, 2001 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Panel Eyelets
John, I got over to the store today and
looked at the eyelets. They have one eyelet exactly like
the sample you sent me, and another eyelet just a
little longer. They have shorter ones, but assume you
don't need shorter. The cost of these eyelets are 30
cents per dozen, plus cost of postage. Anyone that
wants them, email me off list and we will work it
out. Later....Chuck myflyertrains@cfl.rr.com
Message 220
From: myflyertrains
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2001 5:38 am
Subject: Sealed Box of Westerner Accessories
Another sealed box of accessories on eBay, with a little more than two days to
go.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1670235553
Enjoy....Chuck
Message 219
From: ssolderitch18014
Date: Thu Nov 29, 2001 6:14 am
Subject: WINTER WONDERLAND RH SWITCH PANEL
A few years ago I ran across separate sale boxes
of rh & crossover WW panels. they were in a plain
brown box with the part number stamped on end flap.
They were left over store stock and are new, however
the boxes were badly damaged but the panels were
mint. Looking to trade a rh ww panel for any other ww
panel in E condition or better.
Message 218
From: myflyertrains
Date: Mon Nov 19, 2001 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Panel Eyelets
John, I got the eyelet sample. I will take
it by the store that has them later this week. It
looks like a size they would have, and I will also look
to see if they have it slightly longer. We are
talking 30 cents per dozen here! Will keep
everyone posted.....Chuck
Message 217
From: belairchevy
Date: Thu Nov 15, 2001 11:35 pm
Subject: All Aboard Items For Sale
I received this in an email. He prefers to sell
these items as a lot. Please contact Ralphiej@aol.com
for price and other details. E-mail message From:
Ralphiej@aol.com Date: Thu, Nov 15, Gilbert American Flyer
All*Aboard landScaped Scenic Panel Train Sets 20811/20812
Panels in Excellent Condition w/original Cartons
(Cartons are beat up and taped but intact) Complete
Inventory As Follows: Panels( All exc to like new) 8 26101
Curve Panels 4 26121 Straight Panels 1 26141 Rt Switch
1 26142 Lt Switch 1 26151 Scenic Crossover Panel
38 Track Pins 19 Track lockons Trains (Good to
VG, minor rust but should clean up) 1 21107PRR 4-4-2
Loco and Tender w/smoke 1 21165 Erie Casey Jones 4-4-0
Loco and Tender 1 24076 UP Reefer Yellow/Gold
w/working doors (1 coupler broken ) 1 24054 ATSF Box Red
Super Shock Control 1 24127 Monon Gondola 1 24569 AF
Industrial Brownhoist Crane Car 1 24549 Erie Spotlight Car
(Spot Light inner lamp missing) 1 24636 AF Lines
Caboose Yellow w/silver roof 1 24636 AF Lines Red Caboose
Accessories 2 Tunnels Complete 2 colonial 1 1/2 story houses
complete 1 ranch house complete 3 foot bridges 3 large put
together trees 3 1 1/2 inch, 2 inch small trees 4 3 1/2
inch poplar trees 10 Stop Signs 4 split rail fence 3
picket fence 1 long, 2 short 5 railroad crossing signs
in tact 5 railroad crossing signs (panel insert
piece broken) 6 street lamps in tact 3 street lamps
(panel insert piece broken) 1 22034 Transformer (don't
think it works, but hums) 1M6788 All Aboard Booklet w
track plan diagrams(wrinkled but clean)
Message 216
From: firex43
Date: Tue Nov 13, 2001 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: All Aboard Whistle Panel
Hello Bill, Regarding the whistle panel, I
suggest that you test the panel by itself with a
transformer, connecting the outside rail of the panel to the
base post and the constant voltage from the
transformer to the center (yellow) wire of the panel and try
the whistle button. If this works, you will have to
track down a loose or missing connection in your panel
set up. Has the whistle worked at all?
Good luck, John
Message 215
From: myflyertrains
Date: Tue Nov 13, 2001 8:28 am
Subject: Again, eBay Hidden All Aboard Auction
A lot of All Aboard sets are being hidden on eBay
these days in the "O Scale: American Flyer" category.
Here is another one....
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1662754264
Enjoy............Chuck
Message 214
From: judgeatkck
Date: Tue Nov 13, 2001 5:38 am
Subject: All Aboard Whistle Panel
Group I hope you can help me. I recently acquired
a whistle panel, it appears complete, all the wires
appear correct, but I am unable to get it to operate. I
have two switch panels on the same layout and they
both work flawlessly so I don't believe the problem is
with the transformer or the layout itself. Any
suggestions? I will be in South Beloit for the S-Fest this
weekend with a group from KC. So if you are there and
have any ideas look me up. Otherwise I will plan on
responding to e-mails Sunday night or
Monday. Thanks, Bill Hutton(JudgeatKCK)
Message 213
From: belairchevy
Date: Mon Nov 12, 2001 12:15 am
Subject: Panel Restoration
Here are some things I have used or done when
working on my panels. Model Master makes a spray paint
color called Light Sea Gray (FS36307) that is a little
lighter than the original road color but will work. I did
a switch panel with it and was satisfied. A trick
on the switch and crossover panels if the track is
removed is to solder the fold over tabs that make the
electrical connections on the switches and 90 degree
crossing. If your train is slowing down on the curved
section of a switch or one side of the crossover this
should solve the problem. If you remove the track always
drill the eyelets from the bottom. Hold the yellow wire
so it doesn't wrap around the drill bit if it grabs
the ring terminal. What does the yellow wire do? It
conducts the stationary voltage (hot side) to the switch
motors and the whistle on the whistle panel. The spring
wire connectors that hold the panels together make the
electrical connection for the yellow wire between the
panels. Keep your spring wire connectors tight and you
should have no problems throwing the switches.....Brad
Message 212
From: belairchevy
Date: Sun Nov 11, 2001 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: Panel Eyelets
Here is what I have been using taken directly
from the Stimpson catalog. The eyelet that works for
most applications is a GS4-8 outside diameter .121
length under flange .250 In some cases on the switch
panels I have used a longer GS4-9 outside diameter .121
.281 length under flange or a GS4-10 .121 outside
diameter .312 length under flange. For the ring terminals
that attach the yellow wires under the panels I used a
copper D1269 ring terminal. Not exactly like the
original but works very well. The length of the eyelets is
ample to allow use of the ring terminal. My experience
is not to set the eyelets too tight. Just snug
enough to hold the track in place without bending the
ties. A "Brakeman" rivet tool has an attachment for
this using a backing plate. I set mine with a pop
rivet tool using a modified nail for a one hand
operation. Stimpson is located on 900 Sylvan Ave. Bayport,
NY 11705-1097 (516) 472-2425. I got samples from
them for free otherwise you have to order thousands of
them...........Brad
Message 211
From: myflyertrains
Date: Sun Nov 11, 2001 6:58 pm
Subject: Pioneer set with original packing? eBay!
Here is a neat Pioneer set hidden in the O scale
group of eBay. This one seems to have some of the
original packing! Trees still not broken off there
holders, original craft paper, etc....
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1662587483
Enjoy......Chuck
Message 210
From: myflyertrains
Date: Sun Nov 11, 2001 6:45 pm
Subject: Re: Panel Eyelets
John, I would be happy to check for the
eyelet, if you can supply a sample(s) and tell me exactly
what we are looking for. I can then send you several
samples to find out which one you like the best. I
supplied one train parts dealer with thousands of eyelets
to be used as truck bushings. A surplus house here
in Orlando has all kinds of eyelets. The only ones I
have not found yet, are the ones to mount Pikemaster
trucks. They don't have anything quite that large so I am
having to buy my eyelets elsewhere for 25 cents each!
Ouch.... I do have All Aboard panels that still have eyelets
in them, but have no idea what length we are looking
for to have an accurate match for restoration
purposes. Of course, I commit the ultimate heresy, and
remove the pikemaster track from my panels and use
Gargraves attached with screws that are the same color as
the wooden ties. My snail address
is: Chuck Harrington 1565 Brazilian Lane Winter Park,
FL 32792 ....Chuck<br>email: myflyertrains@cfl.rr.com
Message 209
From: firex43
Date: Sun Nov 11, 2001 4:25 pm
Subject: Panel Eyelets
Chuck- If you would like to compare an eyelet I
will send you one if you contact me. Perhaps in
comparison we can find a better length eyelet to compensate
for panel thickness variations. John [firex43]
Message 208
From: myflyertrains
Date: Sun Nov 11, 2001 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: All Aboard Panel Eyelets
I have a source for eyelets that is quite
inexpensive. I am not exactly sure what an uninstalled All
Aboard panel eyelet would look like, but we could look
into it. I suspect I can get something pretty darn
close at a price that would be about $.30 per
dozen! Regarding restoring panels, I would love to see this
discussed openly here in the club, as many of us are
interested in it. My wife has done some remarkable paint
restoration using acrylic paints that are sold in craft
stores, and even the craft department of Walmart. She
mixes paints together to get the exact shade she wants,
and has managed to exactly match the greens and the
white-gray of the road bed. We have not tried to match the
gray color of the streets yet. This type of paint has
a flat finish, and you really can't see where the
paint was touched up, even if you look
closely........Chuck
Message 207
From: belairchevy
Date: Sun Nov 11, 2001 1:38 am
Subject: Re: Thank you
An unopened box of All Aboard accessories is an
excellent and somewhat rare find and a nice addition to an
AB collection. I think you pretty much answered your
own question. Get that box of accessories, open it
and save the box and packing. Put the accessories on
the panels and go run your trains. Have fun!!!!
Message 206
From: kaufu2001
Date: Sat Nov 10, 2001 12:30 pm
Subject: Thank you
Just a great big Thank You to every one trying to
help me finish my train set. I really appreciate all
your help, and with any luck, I will soon have all the
pieces to finish my set. Now, what would happen if I
bought an unopened box of accessories? I want to play
with my trains, not sit and admire them? Would it be
more economical to seek out bits and pieces?
Message 205
From: belairchevy
Date: Thu Nov 8, 2001 12:36 am
Subject: Re: All Aboard Panel Eyelets
firex...thanks again for the info. I've not been
able to find an exact duplicate of the brass terminals
from any of the electronic supply stores here. What I
have been using is a small copper terminal from the
company where I got the eyelets. Since you are into panel
restoration, have you been able to find a paint color that
matches the gray used on the roadways? Model Master has a
Light Sea Gray (FS 36307) that I used on a switch
panel. It's very usable but just a shade lighter than
the original. Perhaps we could discuss restoring
panels further. If you like you can email me at
belairchevy@webtv.net I would be very interested in any methods or tips
you have for fixing up the panels........Brad
Message 204
From: firex43
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2001 11:50 am
Subject: Re: All Aboard Panel Eyelets
As far as I can find out, Hobby Surplus does not
have the brass eyelets for replacement. They do,
however, sell eyelet terminals for use on late AF steam
and diesel locomotives, the part number is PA 6173.
These are a good replacement and save trying to
replicate the eyelets from brass sheet stock.
Message 203
From: belairchevy
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2001 11:02 am
Subject: Re: All Aboard Panel Eyelets
firex43.....Thanks for the info....I had been
getting them in various lengths from a source in New
York. Do you know if they have the original ring
terminals that went on the yellow wire underneath the
panels also?........Brad
Message 202
From: myflyertrains
Date: Wed Nov 7, 2001 6:39 am
Subject: Re: Just found my old Pioneer
The house that Hobby Surplus does not sell, is
listed now on eBay in the following
auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1658766389
This is the 1 1/2 story brown house with blue roof.
Later, Chuck
Message 201
From: firex43
Date: Tue Nov 6, 2001 9:23 pm
Subject: All Aboard Panel Eyelets
Hobby Surplus in New Britain, CT, has original
eyelets to reattach track to the panels. The part number
is 6152. They can be secured with various types of
tools for small eyelets and using a backing post.