Message 50

From: myflyertrains
Date: Thu May 24, 2001 6:30 am
Subject: Re: PV #1701

Karl, I had noticed the round vent before.
You can see it in the composite picture I made that
shows both houses in the same photo. But, even more
important, your pictures confirm something I thought I had
seen before. Look at the downspout next to the porch.
It is there because of the rain gutter that runs
across the eves of the porch. The downspout exists on
the L shaped houses, even though the eve rain gutter
across the porch is gone!

Message 49

Hi All  New pix are posted of the Plasticville
#1701 details...please check them out. Comments,
speculations, theories, are all welcome. Any more pictures of
an actual American Flyer "L" floor plan/Whistle
panel house would really be
appreciated. Thanx...Karl

Message 48

From: frilen2
Date: Wed May 23, 2001 9:44 pm
Subject: Re: Plasticville #1701 House

Hi Chuck<br>Yes I received my Plasticville #1701
at the end of last week. It only strengthens my
theory about the "L" house having a Plasticville orgin.
As you reminded us A.C.Gilbert had a relationship
with Bachmann Bros. Not only the large trees, but
don't forget the #590 Control Tower from '55-'56.
 Do you have access to a 1965 catalog (x165-12 rev)?
The photos that I posted were scans from this book.
The scan resolution unfortunately fails to show two
interesting details. When you receive your #1701, you will
see a round louvered vent on the wall panels just
below the peaks of each roof gable (front and left
side). The catalog photo's of the AF "L" house clearly
show this small round vents in the same location. With
the PV #1701 there is a molded front porche floor,
which bring the floor level right up to the height of
the front door threshold. the AF house looks like
this floor panel was left off, giving you a very high
step up into the door. Take a look, see if you
agree... I'm going to try to re-shoot these pix for better
resolution. Also the catalog gives views of the front, left
and right sides...Does anyone know of a picture of
the back wall of the "L" house. You'll find that
there are insert windows on those three sides of the PV
house, but molded windows on the back side. What does
that side of the AF house look like? You'll need that
for a kitbash project... Best of luck...Karl

Message 47

From: myflyertrains
Date: Wed May 23, 2001 8:44 am
Subject: 600 Set on eBay

Another new All Aboard Set... 
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1600539743 

Message 46

From: myflyertrains
Date: Wed May 23, 2001 5:55 am
Subject: Plasticville #1701 House

Well I finally won my first eBay auction for a
Plasticville 1701 house. I hope to purchase a second and will
use the two houses to hopefully kitbash a L shaped
whistle panel house reproduction. Karl, did you
ever get the house you won? Chuck PS:
The last message I posted here actually got emailed
to everyone within a couple of minutes of the time I
posted it. Amazing, considering email was taking up to
24 hours last week!

Message 45

From: myflyertrains
Date: Wed May 23, 2001 5:42 am
Subject: Champion 8 Panel set on eBay

8 panel set for bid, 4 curves, 2 straight, 2 switch panels. Includes worn
box...  http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1600479877
enjoy, Chuck

Message 44

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sun May 20, 2001 9:40 pm
Subject: Another 6 panel set for sale on eBay...

Another 6 panel set with some trees and mountains. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=591226569 

Message 43

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sun May 20, 2001 2:30 pm
Subject: ALL CLUB MEMBERS - PLEASE READ

Because of problems club members are having with
slow message forwarding, I have created a companion
Yahoo Group, All-Aboard-Sets. This is a similar method
that Paul Yorke uses on the S-Trains list, and I did
not realize when I set up the All Aboard Sets Club,
that I would need both a YAHOO CLUB and a YAHOO GROUP
in order to get things running smoothly. With
the group, you simply subscribe and then email the
list. The addresses needed are below... Group
Email Addresses  Post
message: All-aboard-sets@yahoogroups.com Subscribe:
 All-aboard-sets-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe:
 All-aboard-sets-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Simply email to one of
the above addresses to accomplish
the proper task. The first thing to do is
subscribe! If you are a little confused, you are not
alone! Thanks for your patience! Chuck Harrington

Message 42

From: david_garber2000
Date: Sun May 20, 2001 12:05 pm
Subject: Re: Yahoo Clubs Problems!!!

chuck: you are 100% correct about the time delay with the posting. this is why
I posted twice about the same subject with the same information.

Message 41

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sun May 20, 2001 8:57 am
Subject: Yahoo Clubs Problems!!!

If you are getting these All Aboard Club messages
by email, not that it appears there may be a 24 hour
delay (or longer) before a posted message actually gets
forwarded to you! I am not very happy about the Yahoo Clubs
is working. Also, note that the most recent messages
do not show on the Home Page. At the moment, you
have to click on the ALL messages button by the upper
right hand corner to see 5 messages, 4 of them from
yesterday, that do not show on the Club's opening page at
the time I write this, and also have not been
forwarded to me by email yet. This may be why Paul Yorke
uses a combination of Yahoo Clubs and Yahoo Groups for
S-Trains. We may have to look at this
further! Thanks, Chuck

Message 40

From: frilen2
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 10:21 pm
Subject: Re: Houses & Barn in eBay auction

Hi Chuck These look to me like repackaged
houses from Hobby Surplus Sales. I've added their link
to the All Aboard Clubs website..it's the story
behind Vince Amato buying up American Flyer parts and
plastic at AF's demise. Neat reading, I thought that
other Club members would be interested if they hadn't
seen this before. By the way you can still buy NOS
Ranch Houses from Hobby Surplus Sales...I think that
they were still $9.95 in their last
catalog. Enjoy...Karl

Message 39

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 9:59 pm
Subject: Re: Posting directly from email

Dave, I have not figured out any way to do it. I have tried a lot!
Anyone know how? Thanks, Chuck

Message 38

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 9:51 pm
Subject: Pioneer 600 set Auction on eBay

Here is another one... 
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=591057997 

Message 37

Same as Message 36

Message 36

From: david_garber2000
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 12:22 pm
Subject: House and barn eBay

The items are probably original AF. Look at the
tag and it looks like these are repackaged items sold
by Amatos in new Britain, CT. AKA hobby suplus
sales. They still have some original items listed in
their catalogue. I think Paul Yorke has the web site in
his links and/or parts supply list. Chuck, what
address do I use to post a message to this site from my
mail box without logging onto the Yahoo club site?
Talk to you Sunday night, Dave Garber

Message 35

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 10:15 am
Subject: Houses & Barn in eBay auction

I found the following auction while looking for
the L shaped house. They say original packaging, but
did Gilbert use BAR CODES like on the picture of the
barn http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1146360561
Enjoy...

Message 34

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 7:59 am
Subject: Re: Panel parts, etc.

In searching Doug's used equipment list at his
web site, I found the following item: 20811
ALL ABOARD 6-PANEL SET; Complete!; With
21107-24329-24225-24127-24636; PM; VG+ to EX $175.00 There is a link to
Portlines under "Our Pages | Links" to the left of your
browser window.

Message 33

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 7:46 am
Subject: New - All Aboard Panels & Houses on eBay

Another set of All Aboard stuff on eBay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=590698556 
Enjoy...

Message 32

From: portlines
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 7:39 am
Subject: Panel parts, etc.

Well-- We've finally got around to getting our
Equipment Sales List posted on our website!!!! A long
time coming, but it's there.........and it gets
updated and expanded several times each week. We
have a TON (probably literally!) of equipment to be
added to the list as we process it....just need the
time to do so....... so that's why it expands and
changes every 3-4 nights, along with deleting sold
items. So we encourage you to check it out with
regularity. If you have trouble accessing it, let us know. We
tried several different methods which didn't work
for everyone. So far, this one seems OK. Next
project, this summer, is our Parts Catalog
on-line!!!! We ALSO have the new AF Conversion Can Motors added
to the website, including photos. They are
slick units, require no drilling, and no permanent
modification to your engines. They're installed in
minutes! These units are available through S-n-S (the
manufacturer), or through us, at the same price. Any
dealer inquiries about these units should be directed to
Port Lines. Doug Peck Port Lines Hobby
Supplies 6 Storeybrooke Drive Newburyport, MA
01950-3408 Shop hours: Weekday evenings: 7 PM - 9:30 PM
EST 978-465-8798 1-888-708-0782 (Toll-free; Orders only,
please). http://www.portlines.com  portlines@mediaone.net

Message 31

From: myflyertrains
Date: Sat May 19, 2001 6:33 am
Subject: Re: Snow Panel Pics

Wow! This is the first time I have seen any
pictures with the snow panels set up. Pretty neat. Gabe
looks great. I am still waiting for mine to come. These
snow panels are of course hard to find. I saw some go
on eBay for very high $ a while back. Does Portlines
have very much All Aboard stuff? It would be
nice here to find a place in the club to list All
Aboard stuff that is a available for purchase, with
prices, and where to go to get it. This stuff is so hard
to come by at times!

Message 30

From: belairchevy
Date: Fri May 18, 2001 10:11 pm
Subject: Snow Panel Pics

Group, Just posted a couple of pictures of snow
panels. Got these recently from Doug at Portlines. Gave
them a good cleaning, added regular scenery and an MTH
"Gabe The Lamplighter" and we are ready to railroad !If
you have not seen a snow panel they are the regular
panels painted white with a sparkle in the paint to
simulate snow. The roads are a flat black with patches of
snow on them. The correct scenery will have snow on
the house roofs and trees. This is a nice set for
under the Christmas Tree. Links to the
http://www.geocities.com/belairchevy/ab/sp2.jpghttp://www.geocities.com/belairchevy/ab/sp3.jpg 

Brad

Message 29

From: belairchevy
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 8:35 pm
Subject: Large Trees (The big ugly ones)

I posted a couple of pictures of what I call the
"Big Ugly" trees that you had to assemble for use on
the panels. These are Plasticville current
production. Same as what came with All Aboard except the
green trees have a brown trunk. For variety or even on
the snow panels you could try the Autumn trees. You
will have to add a piece to the bottom of the trunk if
you want it to mount in the scenery hole. The
Plasticville numbers are 49001 and 49002, they come three
trees to a box.

Message 28

From: belairchevy
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 5:00 pm
Subject: Gargraves and Houses

Great pictures guys! The application of the
Gargraves and Plasticville to the scenic panels is a neat
idea. I was looking at the picture of the ranch style
house and with that kind of a roof the bottom part of
the house would have to be different than the ranch
houses you usually see. They must have used some mock
ups or some kind of pre-production models for those
pictures. We know the "L" house exists but how about the
different ranch style and the house with the upper story
window? Notice in the picture also that some of the
billboard stickers are ads other than Erector, Auto-Rama,
or All Aboard. These are available through Joes
Train Repair. Brad

Message 27

From: myflyertrains
Date: Tue May 15, 2001 7:49 am
Subject: Gargraves on AB Panels - Photos uploaded

Discover the Photos section of the club, at the
left of your browser window under Our Pages, click on
Photos. I have uploaded a few pictures of my All Aboard
layout that uses Gargraves Track and
Switches. Note: Gargraves switches do NOT work with AF engines
that have hot shoes!

Message 26

From: frilen2
Date: Mon May 14, 2001 10:21 pm
Subject: Re: Whistle Panel House vs Plasticville!

OK Chuck If you check the PHOTOS page there
are additional shots of the Whistle Panel "L" shaped
house blown up from the '65 Catalog pictures. You can
see the added window and "trellis". In the last photo
you will also see a ranch house with a shallow
pitched gabled roof not the hip roof design that's so
familiar. Food for thought...  Sorry for the grainy
photos, scanning and enlarging loses some resolution.
Enjoy...Karl